Bible Study, False Doctrine, Old Testament
24 Comments Did a Pre-Adamic Race Exist on Earth?
The GOLDEN RULE of interpretation is still true. WHEN THE PLAIN SENSE OF SCRIPTURE MAKES COMMON SENSE, SEEK NO OTHER SENSE!!!!
This is a good rule of interpretation to follow. With this in mind some have erroneously taught that various verses in Genesis suggest that Eve had children prior to the Genesis Fall and that people and entire cities existed before the children of Cain and Abel. Some have gone so far to say that some kind of Pre-Adamic race or previous earth-age existed before Adam that was destroyed because of sin and they actually call it a previous earth age. This reasoning is faulty. First, In Genesis 1:31 God said that all His creation (including the angelic world) was good. This could not be true if there was a previous Adamic race existing on earth prior to Adam’s creation that was deceived by Satan. Second, if God allowed death to occur before Adam, then God is the author of death. The Bible says Adam (not God or Satan) is the author of death (I Cor. 15:21); therefore, no human race fell before Adam’s time. Not until man deliberately rejected the known will of God did death make its first appearance on this planet (Romans 5:12). Third, and more importantly, the Bible clearly tells us that Adam was the first man that God created. Let the Bible speak for itself.
1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Adam was the first man, death came to the world through Adam, and in Adam all mankind has sinned. This is the clear revelation of Scripture. There was no previous race of people before Adam. The generations of man began with Adam (Gen. 5:1). To say that there were people existing on earth before Adam is a weird and wacky conclusion that has no Scriptural base. To say he was the first man after a prior race of millions of men would be severe eisegesis (reading into the Scriptures something that is not there).
But what about Adam and Eve bearing children before Cain and Abel? Is there any logic to this reasoning? Some claim that Genesis 3:16 alludes to the fact that Eve had previous children before Cain and Abel. Genesis 3:16 says, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
The point is made this way. Since God told Eve that He would greatly multiply the woman’s sorrow and her conception in sorrow that there had to be children before the Fall and before Cain and Abel. This is because God said He was multiplying (Hebrew “rabah” – increasing greatly or exceedingly) the woman’s sorrow. You can’t multiply something that did not previously exist.
Several observations can be made about this faulty interpretation.
First, God gave the original command to replenish the earth with offspring back in Genesis 1:28. This verse is a summary of God’s original intent for mankind while He lived in a state of innocence. Naturally, since the Fall took place, God was now adding a new feature or dimension to His original intention and plan for child birth. The idea of multiplying has to do with changing God’s original intention (pain free child birth in a state of innocence) to another plan of childbirth that now involves pain and sorrow, due to the entrance of sin in the human race. It has nothing to do with making something worse than it was before. It’s understood that before Eve had children the curse came upon mankind. A logical and factual reading of the Bible places conception and childbirth after the Fall (Gen. 4:1-2). No one knows how long or short the state of innocence was for Adam and Eve. The Bible simply states that after the Fall children were born. We must allow the Bible to speak for itself on this matter.
Second, God in this statement was simply telling the woman that He would greatly multiply her suffering in general, and more particularly that of her childbearing. Her pains would exceed that of men and particularly during the period of childbearing. And all the ladies said, “Amen!” In a general way, women would experience greater suffering than men (multiplied suffering) and this would be seen when she brings forth children. The idea of multiplying may simply be a comparison between the woman’s suffering and the man’s level of suffering. The woman’s suffering would be greatly multiplied in comparison to the mans suffering, childbirth being a prime example. Her multiplied suffering over the man, especially in childbirth, is a constant reminder that a woman gave birth to sin in the human race and passes it on to all her children. Notice, she can be delivered from this curse to some degree by raising godly children, as indicated in 1 Tim. 2:15.
Third, to interpret the statement (“greatly multiply thy sorrow and conception”) as meaning that Eve would continue to bear children as she did before, but with greater pain, would suggest that there must have been pain in childbirth prior to the Genesis Fall. This is erroneous. The Bible clearly says that pain and death go together and were associated with the Fall (Gen. 3:14-19). They had no existence prior to the Fall. The Bible indicates that nature’s curse (“groaning and travailing in pain”) is a result of the Edenic curse, which came after Adam’s fall (see Romans 8:20-22).
Fourth, the understanding of Genesis 3:14-19 is that none of the curses mentioned by God occurred before the Fall. To say that they did occur prior to the Fall in some form or other is illogical. If pain occurred before the Fall in childbirth, to some degree, then to be honest with the text, you must also say that Adam and Eve faced the battle of the sexes to some degree before the Fall (Gen. 3:16), the ground was also cursed to some degree before the Fall (Gen. 3:17-18), man had to work vigorously to some degree before the Fall to make ends meet, and that death to some degree existed before the Fall (Gen. 3:19). Furthermore, sin must have then existed to some degree before the Fall. All of this is untrue (Rom. 5:12). Interpreting the phrase “multiplying thy sorrow” as a greater sorrow that previously existed opens up a can of interpretive worms. If you interpret one part of the curse as being greater in intensity and existing prior to the Fall, then you must interpret them all in the same way.
Fifth, to suggest that there were children born to Adam and Eve prior to the Fall means that there were sinless babies and children. This too is a faulty conclusion. David declared that children are born in sin (Psalm 51:5). The Bible never talks about a sinless race of people in some kind of prior earth age. To say that there was such a race is pure conjecture. The only race that existed was the one race that existed before the Genesis Flood (2 Pet. 3:6)
Sixth, the Scripture in a clear and understandable fashion suggests that Cain was the first son born to Eve (Gen. 4:1). Eve in this verse said that she had “gotten a man from the LORD” (not another man or the second, third, fourth, or tenth man). Let’s believe what the Bible simply states and says. Cain was the first son. There were no sons or children prior to Cain. Furthermore, Scripture speaks of the three sons of Adam and Eve (Cain, Abel, and Seth – see Gen. 4:25) – not the three hundred sons or children that lived before them.
Seventh, if there were other children born to Adam and Eve before Cain and Abel then why doesn’t Scripture (the final source of our authority) record this anywhere within its pages? Why would God hide this from us? What the Bible does tell us is that Adam and Eve were the first human parents of Cain and Abel. To make assumptions otherwise by reading human reasoning into texts causes us to huckster the intended meaning of the Bible (2 Cor. 2:17 – “For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God”).
It is also suggested by some that there must have been people living before Cain because of the mention of people living in a city. But let’s read what the Bible actually says. What saith the Scripture (Rom. 4:3)?
Genesis 4:17
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
The Bible says that Cain was the progenitor of the city as he tried to reverse the curse of wandering that God had placed on him. He brought the city into existence or the first civilization that perished in the judgment of the Genesis Flood. This civilization marked a civilization that wanted to exist apart from God.
Cain said in Genesis 4:14-15:
Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
But God replied:
And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Some suggest that since there were people living on earth that could find Cain that there must have been a race of people or children born to Adam and Eve prior to Cain. But once again Scripture debunks this idea (1 Cor. 15:45). Adam was the first man. Cain was simply recognizing that as the earth became populated (Gen. 6:1) he would become a marked man and a moving target for causing such problems in the world. But God made sure that this would not be the case by protecting Cain with some mark or sign that would become a deterrent to others and keep them from killing him. The same mark that saved him was the lifelong sign of his shame. In any event, to claim by this statement (“every one that findeth me shall slay me”) that there was a race of people existing on earth before Cain, or that Adam and Eve had children prior to Cain, is to read into the Scriptures one’s own fantasies. Cain simply was recognizing that as the earth rapidly expands in population he would need God’s protection.
In conclusion, to use hypothetical reasoning with the statements that are presented in Genesis 3:16 and 4:15-17, without studying the context or entire Biblical record on creation, causes one to arrive at anti-Biblical conclusions. The natural reading of Genesis records accurate truth. So remember this old interpretive saying: The main things are the plain things, and the plain things are the main things!
By Pastor Kelly Sensenig
I googled my name and your web site came up stating that I told you that you were wrong about the kenite race. You can read about this race in 2Chron and in the original Stong’s work these were the sons of Cain. Look the people who published the New Strong’s changed his work and deleted some things out. How would you like it if someone deleted and changed your work. Also, I follow know man and to refer me to anyone else is false and a lie. The Baptist Religion is probably the most satanic religions on earth.
Edit: the rest of this comment has nothing to do with the article other than to reiterate that you think Baptists are evil; so I deleted it.
Kendall,
Thanks for stopping by again. Your comment has nothing to with this post however. Your tirade about Baptists being satanic was edited b/c it has nothing to do with the post. Feel free to comment on what is actually said in the posts you comment on; however, future comments like this won’t be published. You could start by reading and comment on this article: http://jacklamb.name/2010/03/18/who-perished-in-the-flood/
If you can’t refute it then it is plain that no connection between Cain and any people after the flood is possible.
Here’s another related article: http://jacklamb.name/2007/01/03/genesis-7-9-the-wicked-get-wet-noahs-flood/
Can you read!!! God created all the races and looked and it was good. He created: the man Adam from which Christ would come. A pure blood line!! How hard is it to understand. Oh, I got it the protestant church did not indoctrinate you into this, so it could not be true. Whoever you are maybe you should let the annointing that you have received teach you all things. Listen to God not to another man. If you are serving God for money in a traditional protestant church they would throw you out. God can not work there because the protestants already have the full oracle. If you teach anything contrary to what they teach by the traditions of man IT CA NOT BE TRUTH!!!!! WHATEVER Do yourself a favor and quit serving God for money.
Kendall,
Thanks for improving your comments a little. I’m not sure why you are intent on calling me a protestant who is serving God for money. It appears that is keeping you from being able to actually answer. Baptists are not protestants. I’m not paid by any church. I’m certainly not blogging for money (there are no ads). Hopefully, you can leave those complaints behind now.
Genesis doesn’t tell us that God made the races in ch. 1-2. We are only told that he created Adam & Eve and they had children. There were not any others before Adam – that is the point of this article. If you disagree, please provide some specifics. Talking about protestants, money, and asking if I can read are not answers…
The scripture says that Cain went into the land of Nod and took a wife. Where did she come from. Please don’t tell me it was one of his sisters, because if it is you say he had no sisters at this time. The land of Nod is the land of the Nomads and it was inhabited with people from whom Cain took a wife. Nod means wandering or nomads.
George,
You need to read with more care. I stated that there were no people before Adam; not that Adam & Eve didn’t have many children (Genesis 5:4). Of course it was his sister. More info: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife
God created one race of people and seperated our languages at the tower of babel. We get our characteristics from as well as skin tones from the region that each language migrated to. I personally don’t believe in pre-existence of man, I beleive man has never stopped to exist. When you study the Bible for alone time you will see that we have simply gone from one dispensation to another. I believe there was an earth age before this one when man was in a spiritual body PS. 104, 2Pt. 3, Eze.28, Eze. and other places. If you beleive that we are going back to our spritual bodies to be with Christ. You have to have come from somewhere to go back to it. The 3 earth ages 1.) Spiritual age no flesh 2.) The Flesh age mixed with the spiritual and the flesh 3.) Back to the Spiritual and Kingdom Age With Christ no flesh
to george,ROMANS 11,STOP ARGUEING with this blind idiot.
Jack,
I think you need to read a little more careful. In Gen. 5:3 it says that Adam was a hundred and thirty years old before when he fathered a son in his own image and likeness and called his name Seth. It was after Seth that he began to father other sons and daughters. So, that means Cain was in the land of Nod for at least a 130 years before Seth was born and Adam and Eve fatherd other sons and daughters. None of the particulars are given of Cain’s line. Not even of their deaths. So, again my question is where did Cain’s wife come from?
Genesis 5:3-4 does not indicate there were no children born to Adam and Eve prior to Seth. We already have 2 listed in Scripture that preceded him. Seth is named in Genesis 5 because the genealogy is connecting Adam to the promised Redeemer. Adam and Eve could have easily had 60+ children in “the process of time” (Gen. 4:3). Genesis 5 is a *summary* of Adam’s descendants.
George, you are reading your view into Scripture. A plain reading of the Scripture would tell us that Cain’s wife was one of his sisters.
I was asked a question about the giants that was in the land of Caanan. If you have a King James Companion Bible you can study about the Nephiilims of Noah’s days. If you do not have a Companion Bible you can go to http://www.therain.org and search for appendix 25 and 26. It will give all the scripture, chapters and verses you need to do a complete study on this subject.
George, Thanks for stopping by, but I’m not sure your link is relevant to this post. The article is refuting the idea that a race of people existed prior to Adam. If you want to argue that it is incorrect, please list specific errors in the above article in the comments. Pasting studies from other sites in the comments is not helpful. Comments are for discussion. There is no discussion if you are not answering the actual article. Jack
I hope this is post is not to long but I would like for those who can’t find it have in their study materials. This is all from the scripture.
[Note from Blog owner: It is too long, next time a link to relevant material is all that is needed.]
Pastor Sensenig:
Regarding Genesis as the first book of the Bible, I did some reading and others have suggested that Deuteronomy was written before Genesis and Exodus and that all of these books including Genesis were written centuries after the event happened. There is also some speculation, by certain authors, that Moses is a pure fable and never existed at all and that the account of his venture in Egypt to lead the Children of Israel out of capactivity could not have happened. Those authors say that the figure of Moses himself, and his Law, both were taken from material already existing. The story of Moses’s discovery in the bulrushes was palinly borrowed from the much earlier legend (with which it is identical) of a king of Babylonia, Sargon the Elder, who lived between one and two thousand years before him.
Then the petty tribe of Judah (not members of the Children of Israel), along with the miniscule Tribe of Benjamin and the landless Tribe of Levi, put the process of the Commandments into REVERSE. The masters of Judah, the Levites, as they drew up their Law also took what they could use from the inheritance of other peoples and worked it into the stuff they were moulding. They began with the ONE JUST GOD OF ALL MEN, whose voice had been briefly heard from the burning bush (in the oral tradition) and in the course of five books of their written law, turned Him in the racial, bargaining Jehovah who promised territory, blood and power over others in return for a ritual of sacrifice, to be performed ar a precise place in a specified land.
Thus they founded the permanent counter-movement to all universal religions and identified the name Judah with the doctrine of self-segregation from mankind, racial hatred, murder in the name of religion and revenge.
The preversion thus accompolished may be traced in the Old Testament, where Moses first appears as the bearer of the moral commandments and good neighbour (thou shall not kill) and ends as a racial mass-murderer, the moral commandments having been converted into their opposites between Exodus and Numbers. In the course of this same transmutation the God who begins by commanding the people not to kill or covet their neighbour’s goods or wife, finishes by ordering a tribal massacre of a neighbouring people, only the virgins to be saved alive!
Thus the achievement of the ininerant Levite priests who mastered the Tribe of Judah, so long ago, was to turn one small, captive people away from the rising idea of a good, just, God to ALL men and to send the followers of this creed on their way through the centuries with a destructive, criminal mission.
Whether Moses lived or not, he cannot have led any mass-exodus from Egypt into Canaan (Palestine). No sharply-defined Israeletish tribes existed (says Rabbi Elmer Berger) at any time when anyone called Moses may have led some small groups out of Egyptian Slavery. The Habiru (Hebrews) then were already established in Canaan, having reached it long before from Babylonia on the far side: Their name, Habiru, denoted no racial identity; it meant “nomads.” Long before any small band led by Moses can have arrived they had overrun large Canaanite areas and the governor of Jerusalem reported to Pharaoh, “The King no longer has any territory, the Habiru have devastated all the King’s territory.”
I do not necessarily subscribe to the views of the authors here presented, but my question Pastor, is a simple one, are the facts here by these other authors false?
We don’t deal with speculation here. If you do not accept the Biblical text as authoritative, then your imagination is the only limit to your interpretation.
Daniel, I didn’t approve your latest comment. The answer to your question is this: the “research” (i.e. imaginations) is absolutely false. This blog isn’t for blasphemy. You dismiss the authority of Scripture and vilify the character of God. You need to repent of your blasphemy. I’ll not publish further comments like this.
Jack:
I am always at odds to comprehend why bible expositors, such as yourself,
are unable to deal with questions about the Bible. Falling back on a railing accusation of
“dismissing the character of God” and accusing me of “blasphemy” is not what one might label an intelligent manner to deal with a simple attempt by myself to have a number of questions answered. Dear Lord!
Daniel J. Grasse
a so-called blasphemous character
(just for asking a quesion)
P.S. Are you going to publish this one Jack or bury it in obscurity?
Daniel, you need to take heed to Moses and the prophets; not attack them.
Jack:
I would like to hear from Pastor Sensenig on this matter, that is if the info given by those other authors is false could Pastory Sensenig tell me precisely why their info is false. I would appreciate the Pastor taking the points made one by one and letteing me know the truth.
Kindest regards to Pastor Sensenig
You are SO blind…I pray GOD opens your eyes.
Rod:
I ADMIT THAT I AM BLIND AND I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING OF VALUE. That being said, could you take points made by those other authors and let me know, point by point, their error. For example were the Hebrews extablished in Palestine years before Moses could have led an exodus from Egypt? If the Hebrews were already there years before, there is something missing from conventional analysis. Is there any validity to the commandment given to Moses, that is “Thou shall not kill”? If so, those other authors are pointing out one example, amoung many in the Hebrew Scriptures, more specifically, Numbers Chapter 31 where genocide was committed by killing every Midianite male and further in verse 17 every male child among the Midinites was murdered. It did not end there, any Midianite woman of any age, who was not a virgin, was slaughtered.
Could I have your wisdom and answers to these questions and those raised by those other authors.
peter is the one who spoke of the 3 earth age.s read it very slow and forget what they taught you in those cemetarys. also read jeremiah 4th chapter verse.s 22 23 24 25 26 tell us about this one REV. NOW REMEMBER 2PETER CHAPTER3 no i have not already said it seems that dont want your people to see it
I THINK YOU ARE WHAT WE CALL A VERY FOOLISH MAN
Why do people who hold to strange doctrines comment with such critical, demeaning attitudes? I’m weary of them being posted here, so further comments are closed.